Saturday, July 29, 2006

 

Family support group, both sides of the story

It is agreed that large numbers of women are suffering in India. However, prudence says whenever there is problem solution should be such, which do not open bigger floodgates elsewhere. Unluckily while trying to protect Daughter-in-laws, our leaders did not make provisions to deal with cases where daughter-in-law is terrorising every one else in the family. It is duty of our leaders to enact laws, which promote family unity, harmony and are for betterment of society. Law should be such where if any family member is trying to harass any one else, in the family; the person harassing is punished.

To deal with Dowry / Harassment cases, section 498a was inserted into the Indian Penal Code. When section 498A was enacted, purpose / Inner meaning were to help the wife to stay with her husband, and at the same time protect her from marital violence, abuse, and extortionist dowry demands.

However, actual implementation of 498a has left a bitter trail of disappointment. National Commission for Women (NCW) may quote any data or facts, but real facts are known to our Judges who deal with such cases. Judges, after examining evidences of such cases, has opined that in large number of cases provisions of sec 498a has been misused. Judges has commented that, these are the offences whose deterrence has proved worse than remedy.

There are any number of cases where even if no dowry was taken / demanded; just because wife was not able to adjust to husband home, in the name of Dowry, 498a has been used an instrument to harass innocent husband, his age old parents and his married / unmarried sisters.
Based on girl’s complaint, police blindly without any proof or enquiry; arrested all those named in the complaint and put them in jail.

There are instances where the main point of discord between the couple was that the wife wanted the husband to leave his aged parent's home or an old widowed mother and set up a nuclear family; since man resisted, wife used 498A as a bargaining device. This is one of the reasons, why more and more senior citizens are landing up in old age homes. Although Judges strongly feel that provisions of 498a needs to be changed, but are unable to do any thing since power to amend Law is in the hands of our Politicians.

Since provisions of Sec, 498a IPC are one sided, this has contributed to increased divorce rate. Recently introduced Domestic Violence Act is also one sided and will further accelerate divorce rate. Single-parent system is worst for any society especially for growing children and will deteriorates Law and order situation.

India is not the only country where family disputes take place; however, no country has laws, which empowers its police to arrest family members without an investigation. In no country people are put in jails, until case has been heard by a judge and person declared a culprit. It is only in India where people implicated with 498a, are put in Jails even before case is heard by a Judge.


In India, commissions are formed, and after commission / committee, submits its recommendations, many recommendations are not accepted, why, answer is best known to our political leaders. Justice Malimath Committee recommendation, on reforming the criminal justice system is relevant.

Undoubtedly, we need law against Dowry / Domestic Violence, however law should be such where real culprits are punished, and innocents are not harassed / victimised. Since in many cases 498a has been misused, it is the responsibility of GOI, Judiciary system, and society to salvage and save the institution of marriage.

Following realities are relevant:

1. It is a myth that Sec 498A / Domestic Violence Act protect the women of India. In fact, these Acts are against women themselves, and adversary effecting children / aged people. If one woman is not satisfied with the family or unable to adopt customs / family traditions of her husband, then nearly three innocent women in the family go to jail WITHOUT INVESTIGATION.

2. Boy side suggestion for a simple wedding ceremony is not acceptable to bride’s parents, because they want to show their richness in society and towards this they try and out perform what other did in their circle. Simple weddings are not acceptable to girls also, because they too want to show type of family they belong.

3. Majority of girls who used 498a were not aware of implications of this law. They were misguided by agencies, which stand to gain financially in many ways. These girls were under impression that by using this law they will be able to bring her husband and In- laws under their thumb. They were not aware that 498a case once filed cannot be withdrawn without permission of High Court, and result will be divorce.

4. As per police records, women are getting involved in all types of crimes. Thus, presumption of our leaders that, daughter-in-laws are innocent and will not lie is a myth.

5. One-sided laws like 498a and Domestic Violence Act, where it is assumed that daughter-in-laws only are sufferers and innocent, while rest all other in the family are culprits; such laws are forcing senior citizens / innocent family members to suffer silently and live under stress and be suffocated by wilful daughter-in-law and her actions / attitude.

6. There is no law under which senior citizens /innocent family members, who are suffering at hands of daughter-in-laws, can seek protection?

7. Once a family has been sent to jail even for one day; possibility to reconciliation under any circumstances finishes.

8. Judiciary system drags the case for 8 – 12 years and marriage ends in a divorce. This way, both girl and boy waste golden years of their youth, waste their income / savings on litigation which otherwise could have been used for better living and education of children.

9. Even in cases where there is lack of compatibility between boy and girl, instead of Mutual Divorce, girl and her parents prefer to file a false case under sec 498a, because they want to create pressure of 498a on boy’s family and then bargain on amount of alimony and maintenance.

10. Social science research shows that children of divorced parents pay a high price physically, mentally and emotionally.

11. Mary Corcoran, a professor of political science at the University of Michigan, did a study showing that family income drops significantly after a divorce. Families that were not poor before a divorce, the income plunge can hit 50 percent. Thus, children of divorced parents are likely to live in poverty, have health problems, and become victims of abuse and neglect.

12. The break-up of families leaves one parent trying to do the work of two people—and one person cannot take care of family that well as two can.

13. Study, published in the American Journal of Public Health, showed when the divorce occurs before the child’s fourth birthday mortality rates of children increases.

14. Fagan and Rector Study show that High school dropout rates are much higher among children of divorced parents than among children of always-married parents.

15. Three of fourteen suicides occur in single-parent families.

16. Children who live apart from their fathers experience more accidents and a higher rate of chronic asthma, headaches, and speech defects.

17. Eighty percent of the adolescents in psychiatric hospitals come from fatherless homes.

18. Compared to girls raised in homes where both parents are present, the daughters of single parents are 164 percent more likely to become pregnant before marriage, 53 percent more likely to marry as teenagers, and 92 percent more likely to dissolve their own marriages.

My submission to GOI, Judiciary system, NGOs, society, and Police Department is please make laws, which punish real culprits, and help families to live in a harmony and save marriages. For this, 498a / Domestic Violence Bill need to be suitably amended and existing loopholes plugged. Towards this, followings are suggested:

1. 498a complaints should be first investigated by designated authorities, instead of police blindly arresting all those named in a complaint without any proof.

2. No one should be put in Jail until case has been heard by a Judge and person declared culprit.

3. Burden of proof should be on the person making allegations, family, which did not make any dowry demand how they can prove their innocence.

4. In case allegations are not proved, action is taken against people who made false allegations.

5. Laws should be balanced and either of spouses who are at fault should be punished. It is wrong to assume that only husband and his family commit crime or Domestic Violence.

6. If GOI is serious about eradicating Dowry system, then person who gives dowry should be prosecuted, since such person becomes equal partner in crime. Punish both giver and taker of dowry and system of dowry will die automatically.

7. It is a known fact that some NGOs are working towards getting a law enacted where dowry giver should not be treated as a culprit. Plea of these NGOs is groom side forces bride side for dowry. Such one sided laws will lead to more false 498a cases. Will law accept plea of a culprit who says I was forced to commit murder.


Request to women readers:

Please appreciate it is not only men who are affected by 498a / Domestic Violence Act, tomorrow a daughter-in-law with High Ego can falsely implicate you also. For every 498a case, at least two women (mother & Sister) were sent behind bars. Records show that in many cases distant relations, friends, became victim of 498a case and were jailed. It is not a gender war. It is WRONG LAW, and we must raise our voice against it. Culprits must be punished. Dowry system and Domestic Violence must be eradicated, as these are evils of society.

To know more about 498a search it on internet.

Comments:
Latest Update: Haramzdhi's Group so called Deshi Critics or Deshi Cowered writers/blogers dirty face get exposed due to the Voice of Kush "Why 498A can't be applicable for both Mum and Dad ?".

They all get scared and lost thier Night Sleep.

As a Result they thretened to Ban the Name of Kush in thier Group otherwise they will Chop off the Balls of DC Editors/Moderators. At the end the Editor surrender in the Hand to Haramzadhi Feminist writers/blogers and Baned the Name Kush.

"#15
AamanURLAugust 4, 200606:04 AM "No prizes for guessing who is 'Baned'"


Fight between Child Killer vs Child Saver will Continue till the time all those Haramzadhi will not be behind the bar for Killing the Child/Child abuse/forcing a child to live under single parenting system.

Save Indain Child form Haramzadhi Feminist group, if you you have some social responsibility , otherwise continue your money earning business through Legal Terrorism in India.

We do not want part time Fathers every night basis...
 
You make very good points. Their is a racket in India now with lawyers and families using this law to and make money. Infact lawyers like Geeta Luthra work on a contingency basis and take commission based on how much money they can get from the boys. She is only working on cases against NRIs and uses harassment to settle for a lot of money and then takes 33% commission. Like a legal whore. Basically there is no difference between prostitutes and lawyers like Geeta Luthra.
 
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Excellent Writing.
 
498A Section should not be a nightmare. The reason it is so is because as we read here, the police arrest the husband and the family upon the lady's first complain and then the case starts. The lady in question can complain to the police and then the police have to tell her to hire a lawyer to fight the case. The idea seems that the lady likes to harrase the husband and his family and this can be done so easily as she does not have to lift a stick or hire a gunda as the police do that job for her and so the police are guilty here and they should firstly be taken to the court and then the husband. Come on police we have to see you as god figure. Please dont lose your chance to get moksha doing your duty. As clearly it is the police harrasing and not the husband in many cases. So is there a 498A/Police to go legally against the police? These cases will almost get very small in number if this police illegal decision is put to check. Come on police we have to see you as god figure. People are clearly not scared of a letter from the lady's lawyer as they have the time and the money to fight back with the proof we see here. But how they do this and specially from abroad as they have the fear of being arrested in the first place? If one tries to be a Gandhi in 2006 India, he/she gets a bullet bit too quick and seems from the law itself. Wah!!! UK Guy
 
NRI lost interest and respect for the place when recently got into this trap. Previously was visiting India regularly and also contrubuted at places of need. Totally innocent but now even scared to place information here with name and address.....simply because you never know what can happen. My life is valued by me and dont want it ruined by some thugs when such law exists in India. Can we please have more Gandhis from the politicians of India? Gandhi opened this employment.....that is Official Indian Politics. So let us give something in return to HIM please. UK Guy.
 
Reading all this about the misuse of law and in particular misuse of 498A, I have a suggestion for NRI. Go to India for a holiday. Like now, don’t get involved with politics and business there in India. By now after many years abroad, you have got this title of being a NRI. Most likely you are born abroad. So be a NRI. They used to say when you marry a lady, the 2 families also get married. The problems get sorted out by the 2 families. But remember now…..REMEMBER…..NRI guy not only marries an Indian lady from India but also marries the India police, who are the first ones to arrest you before you are found guilty. Why we blame the law? The law is there. The people who put the law in place are the ones to take the responsibility. So why marry a lady from India in the first place? There are plenty of Indian ladies abroad also where you now live. The Indian lady from India will find it difficult to adjust to the life abroad…..in particular UK and then will blame you and they have the additional police force in India who they can rely on to lock you up next time you are in India or can call you to India by arresting your family member in India, if you have any there. Why marry one and try to see if she adjusts to the life in UK. Why take this risk as she has the Indian police on her side to even ruin your future visits to India. Be safe where you belong and serve that country. You are a NRI and be a NRI. Yes, visit India, see the place, enjoy the Darshans at religious places, enjoy the food and get out after that, back to where you belong. Sorry India this is happening now after personal experience. I am giving my points only about this one problem in India. It is up to others and India herself to address other issues. UK guy.
 
Indians

SOME VERY IMPRESSIVE FACTS ABOUT INDIANS IN USA !!!

There are 3.22 Million Indians in America

38% of Doctors in America are Indians.

12% of Scientists in America are Indians.

36% of NASA employees are Indians.

34% of MICROSOFT employees are Indians

28% of IBM employees are Indians

17% of INTEL employees are Indians

13% of XEROX employees are Indians

23% of Indian Community in America is having Green-Card'

Above information from an email

So why they went to USA in the first place?
Why so many more still want to go to USA and UK in 2006?
WAKE UP INDIA.
 
Why they left India?..... Because many of them might be children of the leaders and the rich in India and prefer to live in the west.
 
Why they left India?..... Because many of them might be children of the leaders and the rich in India and prefer to live in the west.
 
Anonymous said...
UK GUY HAS READ THIS ARTICLE ON INTERNET.....

(KNOWS OF ANOTHER CASE WHERE ANOTHER LADY FROM INDIA HAD COMPLAINED TO THE POLICE ABOUT SIMILAR INCIDENT AND THEN THE POLICE WERE AFTER HER BODY.....NOW THAT LADY IS IN UK). SO GRADUALLY INDIA WILL HAVE MANY DISTURBED LADIES AND SINGLE PARENT CHILDREN. BIG PRICE TO PAY).

Dear Friends,

I am please to blog this on behalf of this 17 Yr Old College going Girl, She Writes

I being a 21st Century Girl doesn’t believe that India is a male dominated country because now-a-days abla’s are sabla’s I mean to say that today’s generation women always want to get something which is new branded and which also has a status symbol that too sitting at home without earning anything. This whole pressure comes on the poor husband who has to listen to his parents, to his in-law, to his boss to his children’s demand too. Irrespective of his demand he has to fulfill his family demand first.

If demand is not fulfilled by him then he has to listen to his wife’s taunts, his children’s frustration to face other problems too. Husbands also have only one person to whom they can talk i.e. to their wife, But dominating nature of wives make them more angry and violent due to which male remove their frustration in form of anger and violence. After that, the spouse or man’s better half do the propaganda of their so called plight without thinking about their husband’s mental status. Thus, adding fuel to fire. They do this with their sure shot and powerful weapon i.e. Tears. Some wives are so great that they directly go to the cops without thinking once about the consequences on their husbands and his family members, Due to which males like (Ram) have to suffer a lot.

This thought of mine can be explained with my personally witnessed experience some days back in my friend’s case. She was genuinely eve teased by some notorious guys in her neighborhood. Her father came to know about this incidence and he called the cops. The guys were taken to question by the police. But to my surprise the police did not even question us at all!!! They took us on face value and the guys were bashed royally by police. And we were not even questioned at all. I could sense the loop hole that I hear many elder married guys stuck in divorce who talks about it, like the one in my neighborhood. Before which I had no whiff about the whole thing.

I asked the police if we could leave and he understood my gesture on face. And he said to us that “You are like our daughters and we have now to be extra cautious about our image too, especially after the rape cases”

And that is where after the NC was lodged I could make out that men are really really vulnerable and women is actually dominating men using men (police) and law to the maximum of their advantage.

No doubt my friends’ grievance was genuine but the statement of the police and the treatment given to the accused at the face value of the whole matter made my conscience prick me to the extent of telling me that thank god I do not have a brother else he could have been victimized and would have been equally vulnerable to this attitude of the police.

“That keeps me pondering on the question that “Is India Really a Male Dominated Country???”


Sneha Kala.
XII Commerce, C-11.
Thakur College

5:51 PM
 
They used to say when you marry a lady, the 2 families also get married. The problems get sorted out by the 2 families. But remember now…..REMEMBER…..NRI guy and and others dont only marry an Indian lady from India but also marries the Indian police, who are the first ones to arrest you before you are found guilty. Why we blame the law? The law is there. The people who put the law in place are the ones to take the responsibility. So why marry an lady from India in the first place
 
Arre...yahin to dhokha kha gaya India..
 
FACTS IN SIMPLE ENGLISH

India is so divided as it is and such laws will only send females to some sector of the men population....eg men police, men lawyers, men judges. As per the law, men are not trusted it seems and most of the people handling the cases are men. This is the place where the same ladies will say yes sir and can end up doing whatever is said to them and will have to keep the mouth shut also, and later realise what real trouble can be.

Let all that happen and then when they don’t have any place to go to, then the lesson will be learnt…..is this what we want to happen to our sisters, wives and mothers? Don’t you think it will be too late by then? Meaning….. where will they complain when harassed by men police, men lawyers, and men judges? These guys may not be your husbands but they will still be men. Will they care for you more than your husbands? Will they truly care for you?

Lot needs to be done to have good population of men police, men lawyers, men judges etc before letting these women go to these men. I say this because men are not trusted as per the law. It is like a case where a woman law maker is sending a poor cow to a lion hoping that the lion is a vegetarian. Note for the law maker (specially the female law maker):- Please first sort out other problems before this creates more problems for the society.

NOW YOU MIGHT BE THINKING:- IS THIS IS WRITTEN BY A MAN OR A WOMAN? THIS IS WRITTEN BY A HUMAN BEING. UK.
 
FROM THIS 498A SECTION AND HOW IT WORKS, IT SEEMS THAT IT IS VERY VERY SAFE FOR AN INDIAN LADY FROM INDIA TO MARRY AN INDIAN POLICE-MAN, INDIAN MAN LAWYER, INDIAN MAN JUDGE. .....ARE THEY ALL PERFECT AND UNTOUCHABLE BY THE LAW???!!! AND IS THE REST OF THE MEN POPULATION UNTOUCHABLE BY THE WOMEN POPULATION???!!! UK PERSON.
 
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Let us bring in equal laws for all human beings and not one law for ladies and one for gentlemen.....otherwise both sexes will fight like cats and dogs like now. So seems we have brought in more fights while trying to stop one fight.

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Let us bring in equal laws for all human beings and not one law for ladies and one for gentlemen.....otherwise both sexes will fight like cats and dogs like now. So seems we have brought in more fights while trying to stop one fight. UK Guy.

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Lot needs to be done to have good population of men police, men lawyers, men judges etc before letting these women go to these men. I say this because men are not trusted as per the law. It is like a case where a woman law maker is sending a poor cow to a lion hoping that the lion is a vegetarian. Note for the law maker (specially the female law maker):- Please first sort out other problems before this creates more problems for the society. UK Guy
 
Another 498A link:
http://www.topix.net/in/surat?scoring=d
 
I heard that many ladies from India go to Dubai and other rich cities and dance in front of guys and many go to the ones offering the most money to finish off the night.....and the same process starts the next night. All for money???!!!

And many of the other ladies misuse 498A penal code and other similar one sided laws existing in India to extract as much money as possible from guys in India and guys overseas. This is gradually becoming the Indian ladies' image. Nothing to be proud of.

If some of these lady law makers in India think that they have introduced something great by bringing in the one sided 498A penal code and DV law, then they have to realise that they have done nothing better than these other dancing ladies and the ladies who misuse the law. These laws make it easy for ladies to extract money from guys. The lady law makers have helped them.

All this is ruining the good name of Indian ladies and India in general. India has been known to be a very religious country with many Gods who took birth on the land. India is a very big supplying industry for basically everything on this planet. Now the country has a very big population with AIDS. It can now even be said that many Gods might take birth in India not because the people are good and the land is fertile for the birth of Gods. But one can say that many people(specially ladies) are not using their heads properly and they need to be taught some basics by Gods. May be India might even lose the chance to have Gods taking birth in India for centuries. Many people in India are losing the good teachings that the saints and sages gave to India. Many Ravanas and Kansh and so God takes birth? How many can he destroy? Too many around. And so He teaches by taking birth and might even refuse to come that easily now.

India.....WAKE UP before the bad law makers make these new laws to destroy the country. Here I am only talking about 498A and DV law. So ladies.....do a U Turn and do the duties well. Otherwise many of you will seem to be the modern day Ravanas and Kansh in India. If you are enjoying all this, then continue dancing in overseas clubs and make plenty of money by extracting money from guys after marrying them and then misusing these 498A type penal code laws. And be a supplying industry for sex also. So India gets a new name…..WORLD SUPPLIER.

Message for the good ladies…..I am sorry to put it this way. It is as bad as this and so have done it this way. I don’t think it is necessary to place my name here as no reward is expected for this bit of information. Do the duty and expect no reward. UK Guy…..not born in India…..yes the same one.
 
Anonymous said...
Just read this on internet "the police,politicians, forensic scientists, bureaucrats and judges who helped the Jessica Lall's killers get away."

So how many of these big guys can be booked under DV law or 498A type penal code? NRI UK.

5:56 AM, December 18, 2006
 
Yes it is a bit like giving "false legal teeth" to a lion to tear up and eat certain type of meat only. Dilip. UK.
 
best regards, nice info » » »
 
IS THIS TRUE? IF YES, THEN THE ANSWER IS THERE ITSELF.

Passed by Indian Parliament in 1983, Indian Penal Code 498A, is a criminal law (not a civil law) which is defined as follows,
“Whoever, being the husband or the relative of the husband of a woman, subjects such woman to cruelty shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine. The offence is Cognizable, non-compoundable and non-bailable.”

How are you at risk and why it is dangerous for the society?

Your wife/daughter-in-law who's demands are not met can make a written false complaint of dowry harassment to a nearby police station. The husband, his old parents and relatives are immediately arrested without sufficient investigation and put behind bars on a non-bailable terms. Even if the complaint is false, you shall be presumed guilty until you prove that you are innocent.
 
I heard that many ladies from India go to Dubai and other rich cities and dance in front of guys and many go to the ones offering the most money to finish off the night.....and the same process starts the next night. All for money???!!! Go and check for yourself. Yes Indian ladies from India showing their stomach and a lot of their body...I think you know what I mean.

And many of the other ladies misuse 498A penal code and other similar one sided laws existing in India to extract as much money as possible from guys in India and guys overseas. This is gradually becoming the Indian ladies' image. Nothing to be proud of.

If some of these lady law makers in India think that they have introduced something great by bringing in the one sided 498A penal code and DV law, then they have to realise that they have done nothing better than these other dancing ladies and the ladies who misuse the law. These laws make it easy for ladies to extract money from guys. The lady law makers have helped them.

All this is ruining the good name of Indian ladies and India in general. India is a very big supplying industry for basically everything on this planet. Now the country has a very big population with AIDS. Many people in India are losing the good teachings that the saints and sages gave to the country. Many Ravanas and Kansh around.

India.....WAKE UP before the bad law makers make these new laws to destroy the country. Here I am only talking about 498A and DV law. So ladies.....do a U Turn and do the duties well. Otherwise many of you will seem to be the modern day Ravanas and Kansh in India. If you are enjoying all this, then continue dancing in overseas clubs and make plenty of money by extracting money from guys after marrying them and then misusing these 498A type penal code laws. And be a supplying industry for sex also. So India gets a new name…..WORLD SUPPLIER.

Message for the good ladies…..I am sorry to put it this way. It is as bad as this and so have done it this way. UK Guy...not born in India.
 
Peace - UK writes.....so bad all this is happening in India. OK problems are there all over the world but something like this you read here to happen in this century is a backward step in Indian politics. People in UK are also stuck in this type of false accusations from Indian ladies and fear to come there as the cases take about 5-6 years to clear and much money can be asked for as you go along to prove your innocence. Kissing scenes are not allowed on Indian screen as that does not happen in India openly.....censor board manages to do the job alright there. But Business corruption, politics corruption and corruption in police station type scenes are allowed to be shown by the censor board and this can mean that these things do happen in India on very regular basis. And the politicians probably think that the movies will change India. And to bring in such one sided Penal codes and DV laws mean more movies are needed to change India!!! Very confusing as India tries to modernise.
 
Same old corruption and the bribes are now even bigger. Poor have no chance the way the politics is organised in India. A new Gandhi will be shot dead by the Indian politics on the same day.....it seems as bad as that. A country that invents the one sided penal code 498A to trouble and extract money can do anything...Peace UK

IPC 498a provides for arrest of the offender(s) as named by the wife in a written complaint submitted to the court or magistrate.

An offence under this section is Cognizable (arrest before investigation), Non-Compoundable (case cannot be dismissed even if complaint is withdrawn) and Non-Bailable.

These provisions allow offenses under this section to be treated on par with offenses such as murder.

This law assumes the accused to be guilty until proven innocent. The statement of the wife is assumed to be candid and truthful in all respects. No evidence needs to be furnished by the wife.

PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED FOR AGES AND ARE NOT ABLE TO VISIT INDIA IN FEAR OF BEING STUCK THERE FALSELY FOR 5-6 YEARS. People in India are already in more trouble as are arrested within seconds of a false complain...Peace-UK
 
I think Shilpa said something in the line of... he is from overseas and different culture and needs to be treated well specially when he is doing so much for India. May be an Indian guy who if had done the same to Shilpa might have faced the Indian penal code 498A or the DV law introduced by an Indian lady law maker??? For those who dont know what this penal code misuse is can check the internet for it. The overseas guys stuck in this misuse of the law by Indian ladies will know better. They cant even return to India in fear of being troubled for about 5-6 years. Nothing is likely to happen to Gere. How India will face this challenge now???!!!
 
You know when someone asks what shall we do with the man and another might say...burn the body and bury the ashes as they dont want to take any chances.

That is what the Penal code 498A and DV Law is.

A lady uses the police when she decides to misuse the law. And the locking up on the spot etc etc takes place the same time. Seems lady law makers felt so insecure and rushed blindly to make the law in their favour!!! And here we are in 2007 when India talks about modernisation. Legal terrorism as they have called it in India. Peace - UK
 
http://suicidenoteofhusband.blogspot.com/
 
The law needs to be re-worded so leaves no room for misuse. Who is going to apologise to the people who suffer now and the ones who suffered in the past and for the lives lost??? Man - UK
 
Peopla are dieing due to the misuse of Indian Penal Code 498A and DV Law and people and lawyers are interested in Gere - Shilpa kiss???!!! The law makers of this law have left a window open for the legal misuse and they need to be taken to the court for so many deaths. How can they sleep like this???!!!

http://suicidenoteofhusband.blogspot.com/

If this does not open, search in google.

Peace - UK
 
This is part of the comment already on internet (copied pasted):-

"Thousands of cases are rotting without trial for years under section 498a...False cases that have been filed against men AND WOMEN who are being tormented by the police and courts as we speak. And when all these victims of misuse of law get acquitted will those statistics be publicized to support the introduction of new laws that punish women who are abusing laws?

Apart from all the pain and suffering endured by victims the society incurs a huge cost because of false cases. Right now India is busy filling up lock-ups and courts with innocent citizens who could otherwise have spent their time to add to the productivity of the country. In addition, frivolous lawsuits that drag on for years distract attention from real crime that needs to be addressed immediately.
 
Man - UK>>> This is on internet (copied pasted):

"Section 498 (A) of the Indian Penal Code makes it mandatory for police to book husband and his parents and other relatives/friends whoever being named on the complaint by wife or her close relatives and jail them.

This section is non-bailable, non-compoundable (complaint can't be quashed) and cognizable (arrests without investigation to start working on the case). There are several cases, without investigation initially, police arrests elderly parents, unmarried sisters, pregnant sisters. Few parents and sisters have committed suicide after spending some 5 to 15 days in jail. Whereas, Filing a dowry case is as easy as ordering a pizza. . There is no penalty (even a fine) for filing a false case".
 
Man - UK says...
THIS IS ON INTERNET. COPIED PASTED.

"Man - UK>>> This is on internet (copied pasted):

"Section 498 (A) of the Indian Penal Code makes it mandatory for police to book husband and his parents and other relatives/friends whoever being named on the complaint by wife or her close relatives and jail them.

This section is non-bailable, non-compoundable (complaint can't be quashed) and cognizable (arrests without investigation to start working on the case). There are several cases, without investigation initially, police arrests elderly parents, unmarried sisters, pregnant sisters. Few parents and sisters have committed suicide after spending some 5 to 15 days in jail. Whereas, Filing a dowry case is as easy as ordering a pizza. . There is no penalty (even a fine) for filing a false case".

SO ALL THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. HOW ON EARTH THIS LAW EVEN WENT THROUGH AS AF AS THE RUBBER STAMP STAGE? I THOUGHT THAT THE POLITICIANS CHOSEN WILL BE MORE CAREFUL. THIS MATTER IS BECOMING A WORLDWIDE JOKE. INDIA'S PROGRESS MEASURING YARD IS THE WEST. IF THEY SAY INDIA IS COMING UP FAST, THEN THAT IS FINAL. INDIA IS SWELLING UP LIKE A BALOON WITH FALSE PRAISE. THIS LAW AND THE CORRUPTION WE SEE IN INDIAN OFFICES IS NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THE WESTERN PRAISE IS HEARD. INDIANS WILL DESTROY INDIA THE WAY THE COUNTRY IS PROGRESSING. NO BOMB OR ANOTHER COUNTRY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DESTROY INDIA AND TAKE IT BACK MANY YEARS...AS THE WAY IT IS TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY. IT IS A MATTER OF TIME. THE CLOCK IS TICKING. Peace -UK
 
YES THE ABOVE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING SAID ALL ALONG FOR A LONG TIME.
 
When this sort of law is misused by a lady, be ready to know that the marriage is over.

Gentleman, firstly I feel that the marriage is over. You either try to be like her and place as many accusations as possible against her and so she can have the taste of her own medicines. OR try to be like Gandhi and suffer...and which I feel in this matrimony case where a lady misuses the law, will be of no use. FIGHT back. This is the only way the message will go to the law makers and these type of nasty ladies. This topic has been going on for very long. Soft aproach will not bring the required results. NRI Guy
 
muraliMohan said...
A demand for money on account of some financial stringency or for meeting some urgent domestic expenses cannot be termed as demand for dowry.

MuraliMohan
Advocate
www.247advocate.com

11:17 PM, May 07, 2007
 
THIS IS ON INTERNET

muraliMohan said...
A demand for money on account of some financial stringency or for meeting some urgent domestic expenses cannot be termed as demand for dowry.

MuraliMohan
Advocate
www.247advocate.com

11:17 PM, May 07, 2007
 
SO ALL THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. HOW ON EARTH THIS LAW EVEN WENT THROUGH AS AF AS THE RUBBER STAMP STAGE? I THOUGHT THAT THE POLITICIANS CHOSEN WILL BE MORE CAREFUL. THIS MATTER IS BECOMING A WORLDWIDE JOKE. INDIA'S PROGRESS MEASURING YARD IS THE WEST. IF THEY SAY INDIA IS COMING UP FAST, THEN THAT IS FINAL. INDIA IS SWELLING UP LIKE A BALOON WITH FALSE PRAISE. THIS LAW AND THE CORRUPTION WE SEE IN INDIAN OFFICES IS NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THE WESTERN PRAISE IS HEARD. INDIANS WILL DESTROY INDIA THE WAY THE COUNTRY IS PROGRESSING. NO BOMB OR ANOTHER COUNTRY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DESTROY INDIA AND TAKE IT BACK MANY YEARS...AS THE WAY IT IS TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY. IT IS A MATTER OF TIME. THE CLOCK IS TICKING. Peace -UK
 
I think Shilpa said something in the line of... he is from overseas and different culture and needs to be treated well specially when he is doing so much for India. May be an Indian guy who if had done the same to Shilpa might have faced the Indian penal code 498A or the DV law introduced by an Indian lady law maker!!!??? Nothing is likely to happen to Gere. How India will face this challenge now???!!!

For those who dont know what this penal code misuse is can check the internet for it. Type "Indian Penal code 498A and DV law" at google search for example and the whole chapter opens up.

The overseas guys also stuck in this misuse of the law, after truely loving and marrying an Indian lady from India will also know better. They cant even return to India in fear of being firstly arrested and troubled for about 5-6 years to prove their innocence. Guy - UK
 
Peace - UK: This has just been read on internet:-

Sunday, July 23, 2006
Zee News on 498a
"Main Shaadi Karungi, Pati ko Fasane Ke Liye,
Main Saath Phere Loongi, Case Darj Karne Ke Liye,
Main Dahej Bhi Doongi, Pati ko Kaid Dilane;
Rishte Hue Bemel, Yahi hai 498a ka Khel..."

- Crime Reporter (Promo) Zee News.
Telecast: IST 11.00pm (3oth July 2006), Repeat 10.30am, 4.30 pm (31st July 2006)

Attempted Translation (accurate translation not possible):
"I will get Married, to cheat the Husband,
I will take Seven Rounds of Vow, to be able to file a case,
I will give Dowry, to get the husband arrested (if required);
Relations have reached to this Irreworkable Day, because of the 498a."
posted by Jinesh Zaveri at 6:06 AM
 
Check this also.....

"Section 199. False statement made in declaration which is by law receivable as evidence

Whoever, in any declaration made or subscribed by him, which declaration any Court of Justice, or any public servant or other person, is bound or authorized by law to receive as evidence of any fact, makes any statement which is false, and which he either knows or believes to be false or does not believe to be true, touching any point material to the object for which the declaration is made or used, shall be punished in the same manner as if he gave false evidence".

SURELY THE LADY HAS TO GIVE EVIDENCE TO THE POLICE TO HAVE THE HUSBAND AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!

DO THE POLICE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVIDENCE BEFORE ARRESTING THE PEOPLE NAMED BY THE WIFE?

.....Peace - UK
 
Reader - UK

This is also on internet.....

"Whereas, Filing a dowry case is as easy as ordering a pizza.. There is no penalty (even a fine) for filing a false case".

Please throw some light on this as a matter of knowledge to the readers.
 
Gentleman I have read your messages here.

So much bad happens in India that people sending in messages are bit reluctant to place real name and address to this.

A common belief (Please understand why I have said this, ie common belief). I have got my life to live.:

People in India use money to organise unthinkable false documents with proper office stamp on it. At times the documents come from proper office but have been obtained by giving fasle information and as such the office is covered but the guys giving in false information are still in the wrong and it is difficult to sort all that out when you are firstly placed in prison. Even the Indian offices refuse to answer to this as many of them have been involved to organise so much bad. For example how are you going to tell someone that a so and so took bribe and a so and so organised false and doubtful documents? Yes you write and ring. But they dont want to come forward and reply.

Money speaks faster. Firstly you can see that in this 498A section how safe a lady is after giving false information. Basically the victim suffers for about 5-6 years to prove himself right. Is that fair? I have always loved India and been there many times. For example if I say this someone is a thief, then it is my duty to prove that he or she is a thief. Why that someone has to prove that he/she is not a thief?

"Section 426. Punished for mischief

Whoever commits mischief shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three months, or with fine, or with both."

Yes the laws are in place but how you start when you are firstly arrested and degraded and laughed at and may be even beaten.

Will a minister's son be arrested firstly in such type of false accusations?

Typed quickly. So please correct and read.

To cover myself, even I have to say here that I take no responsibility for giving this information. The whole matter said above is as such without prejudice
 
Not many Indian from India commenting here at the moment. Peace - UK
 
Peace - UK says...he saw this on internet...

"Thursday, June 14, 2007
MAHESH JAIN - New delhi
Name: MAHESH JAIN
Comments: My father-in law and mother -in law involved into share trading, pawn broker, chit-funds etc keep on asking money. Till date give Rs 8-10 lacs in ch and cash through my wife. If money not given then trheat to kill my daughter and invovlve my family in false case of 498a.
regds"
 
This is also on internet...

"Friday, June 29, 2007
thiyagaraja - chennai
Name: thiyagaraja
Comments: i work in middle east.the girl demanded for separate family leaving my parents which i rejected failing which,she blackmailed me to comit sucide. but one fine day her parents came to our house with people of a movement called vahga valamudan attacked my father and draged him to local police.subsequently we wear in police stataion.there she declaredshe is not interested to live with me and took all her belonging and give in writting also.after this i issued divorse in high court and took Anticipatory BAIL 2 times and i was granted.now she has given a petition in her local police staion for which girl is not coming for enquiry,even at the call of police SI.she delibaratly want take revenge of my elderly family.i lost peace of mind.i hope that i will get back my days with my father and mother."
 
Just saw this on internet...Peace -UK

"Sunday, July 01, 2007
namit Juyal - Noida/Uttarpradesh
Name: namit Juyal
Comments: I m a software engineer working at noida.I got
married January 2005.after my marriage few months went fine but after
that problems started. My wife is very demanding. She forced me to buy
car in her name for which i had to took loan 2.7 lac from the bank for which i m paying Rs5408 every month . After that she forced me to buy a house
jointly at Greater Noida for which i again took 13.6 lack Home loan & 1.5 lac personal loan from bank for with total emi i m paying every month is RS 20,000
.My parents also helped me by giving 4 lac in buying this house.After that she and her parents started blackmailing me to transfer
the whole house in her name other wise they will file case sec. 498 A against me. Upon resisting they filed FIR against me of Dowery and
Domestic voilence against me and my parents on 18/06/2007.We have taken stay from high court against it.I had to stay in jail for 2 days and i was released on personal bond of Rs 10,000 after the stay from high court. My wife wants huge amount of money,home and car if i have to settel this case which is not possible from me.Kindly help me
Thanks
Namit"
 
To start with, ask them if a minister's son will be arrested with this type of compliant from a lady who misuses 498A?!

Secondly ask them if a white man from UK will be arrested to start with in such type of case?!
Peace - UK
 
I have been fair in my comments regarding Indian Penal Code 498A and DV Law. Dowry demands and other harassments associated with the birth of a female and not a male are all wrong.

The argument is about the way the husband, in-laws and any other people the lady names are arrested and locked up without any evidence. Yes.....locked up.....eat and sleep inside and the hell with their families and loved ones (including children) who wait for them at home. As if they have murdered someone!!! That is harassment.

People need to be aware of the Penal Code 498A and what it can do. This lady, Pooja Chauhan from Rajkot and who went nearly naked and walked the streets to have the voice heard has made people to read about the Penal Code 498A and what it exactly means for the husbands and the in-laws. Some people and may be the women's group encouraged her to go half naked like this. The method has been wrong. I do feel sorry for the lady. Because this Penal Code 498A is available to be misused, she went as far as this. So the people who signed and agreed to this law to be in place are guilty to start with.

It shocks and saddens you to see a young woman like Pooja Chauhan take off her clothes and parade through the streets of Rajkot, Gujarat, India.

Whether she is right or wrong, alcoholic or drug addict or is after some money after harassing the husband and in-laws etc is up to the law to find out. She certainly has brought a lot of damage to the husband's side. This case will probably take very long to finalise as it seems that the arrests have been made and it is regarded as a criminal case against the husband and the in-laws. A mere sorry from Pooja will not do as now the whole matter will have to be cleared via the courts.

People can type “Indian Penal Code 498A and DV Law” at google search for example and can find out more.

Many false cases are lodged where the ladies firstly get the husband's side arrested and it is heard that in many cases it takes 5-6 years for all to be over. NRIs at times end up staying in India for so many years and at times end up paying so much to get out of all this.....even though when they are totally right. They just want to carry on with their lives abroad and so get out of the country in this way after having their passports returned. This word has gone around in India and so NRIs are considered easy targets.

This lady Pooja Chauhan has made people more aware of this Penal Code 498A and the DV law and that is one of the good things that have come out for the male population in India, UK and other countries. Peace - UK
 
National Commission for Women should not make a meal out of this case. The lady went half naked on the road and it is bad enough. Her aim seems to have been to get the in-laws arrested firstly. Like many other cases, a lady at times comes up very strong and then cools down and changes the story. The real problem is something else but the complain is for something else. I KEEP SAYING THAT THE LAW IS WRONGLY IN PLACE. The law allows the police to arrest firstly without evidence. They just need a statement from a lady to have in-laws arrested. This loop hole is what many ladies seem to be using. " MAXIMUM HURT WITH MINIMUM PROBLEM" ie...just tell the police that so and so is asking for dowry and that person is in with a criminal case filed against him. At times this complain about dowry has never been there from a lady. But she suddenly comes up with that accusation as that works fast. " BIG DOSE OF SOMETHING THAT KILLS" That big dose ie the Indian Penal Code 498A and DVC law is there for them to use whenever they wish to do so.
 
Misuse of the law by ladies will not help other ladies. At times one of the persons arrested in the in-law's group is a mother.....mother-in-law.....yes a lady. I hope there is no emotional decision and more punishments for anyone before finding the real truth in this Pooja Chauhan crucial case and even in other more simple cases. MAN ALSO HAVE FEELINGS. NRIs also have feelings. Let me say no more. Peace - UK
 
So much has been said about the misuse of this so called Penal Code 498A and DV law. Ladies have been unnecessarily fully armed to start with.

So basically they have been told..."go get married and then if you don’t want to live with him then you can get him and in-laws arrested and he pays quicker when behind bars." It is as simple as this.

It is an insult to have someone arrested in this way and to place him behind bars and made to negotiate after making him taste the food behind bars. How did Gandhi feel when he was placed behind bars? Have I not said enough?

Look what Peace – UK and other UK guys have been saying for many months under various topix related to this>>>"Indian Penal Code 498A and DV law." The majority of the cases involve people in India. We are not against India. What is being said can help to place the minds thinking once again for these types of misuses.

A lady dropped her clothes in the streets of Rajkot and walked wearing 2 clothes in this wet weather. Why? The whole world saw that. In films for such scenes, they get paid few lakh rupees. I am not saying that she does not have a case. That is up to the court to find out. There are other ways to get the message across. The easiest way is via the misuse of this law which exists. It has minimum risk for the lady but maximum punishment for the husband and in-laws. And she goes for it. Same way the lady does not want to be harassed by the in-laws; the husband and the in-laws also don’t want to be harassed like this by being arrested to start with.

The case is regarded as a criminal case. So what happens in a normal criminal case, where for example, some one breaks into a house and is locked up? Who takes him to the court and who pays the fees to sentence him? Why in these sorts of Penal Code 498A and DV law cases, the man has to bail himself out and later hire a lawyer to prove his innocence? Why call someone a criminal when he is not a criminal? Why the police don’t take him and others named in the case to the court to prove that they are criminals…same as they do in other real criminal cases and lock them up for many years when found guilty? That will be expensive…yes? So now you see how all this has been so nicely worked out! The husband and the in-laws pay.

That question asked by Peace – UK still remains. Will a minister’s son and others in the family be arrested with one single complain from a lady? Will they be placed behind bars and then they bail themselves out to prove that they are not criminals? Will they be arrested like other Indians and NRIs say for example, on a Friday and then told that the offices are closed and so they have to stay inside for the whole weekend?

So basically the law is organised in such away that the government spends as little as possible. The man pays. I am not going to go into the details of the money he ends up paying under the table here and there. NOW WHO IS GOING TO SAY THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN INDIA ON VERY REGULAR BASIS? See the films where such scenes are not censored as they are there to open the people’s eyes. The government lets such scenes go through hoping that the bribery and corruption in the country will go down a bit but then on the other hand they have introduced these one sided laws!

What I am trying to say is that the man and the in-laws do end up paying a lot to put their lives back on track after these false accusations. No compensation is there for them. The lady drops the clothes and says she does not have any money to compensate for the disturbance caused to the husband and the in-laws. And that works. People easily take the side of the lady who drops the clothes. What chances do the husband and the in-laws have? Peace – UK has said that NRIs also have feelings and get hurt. They value their hard earned money and lives also. This is the message for the people in India to do something and the message for the NRIs who think of marrying an Indian lady from India. UK Human
 
This is on internet:-

"Heartwin Wessly - Erode, Tamilnadu

Name: Heartwin Wessly

Comments: my case is in enquiry stage. My wife was married beforeand she give money to broker and hide that and marry me. She dont have proper divorce before justice. But she give complaint against me and my mumm and other four members. I was remanded in jail for 7 days and got bail. I spent lot of money to save from this false case. No use now i am helpless. Police made false fir and spoil my life. i was sufferring past 4 years. 31/07/2007 is the enquiry date given by the magistrate court bhoothapandy. before that i filed a petion in madurai bench to transfer the case to any other district because of my wifes family are threttening us for money. court doesnt bother about it. i am so much worrying and decide to make sucide. because law, police, judge and all the government orders are favour to she. No one is ready to protect me."

http://victims-of-law.blogspot.com/

Peace - UK
 
THIS IS ON INTERNET

Chandra - London

Name: Chandra

Comments: Sridevi mannava a lunatic female filed a fake 498a case against me.
I then got a stay order from high court. I went to India last year when the high court stay order was live. Mannava ram mohan rao a well known gunda who is the father of the complainant got me arrested joing hands with the police.Also the lower court has issued non bailable warrants while the stay order was still in force.
So you can clearly understand the situation I hope. When a higher court has issued a stay how can a lower court and police take action??? This can only happen in india. the bottomline is corruption.Can anyone think of any other alternative.
Interesting this is the girl has already left to USA and her dad wants to get huge amount of money from me.
The world media boosts too much about india but indian laws are barbaric and biased.
I pledge all the NRI's to come forward and support this situation and we can even put in media.
Disgraceful.
Long live NRI's.
 
This is copied pasted from Internet

Anonymous said...

I heard that many ladies from India go to Dubai and other rich cities and dance in front of guys and many go to the ones offering the most money to finish off the night.....and the same process starts the next night. All for money???!!! Go and check for yourself. Yes Indian ladies from India showing a lot of their body...I think you know what I mean. Go and check it for yourself.

And many of the other ladies misuse 498A penal code and other similar one sided laws existing in India to extract as much money as possible from guys in India and guys overseas. This is gradually becoming the Indian ladies' image...specially abroad...the whole truth!!! Nothing to be proud of.

If some of these lady law makers in India think that they have introduced something great by bringing in the one sided 498A penal code and DV law, then they have to realise that they have done nothing better than these other dancing ladies and the ladies who misuse the law. These laws make it easy for ladies to extract money from guys. The lady law makers have helped them.

All this is ruining the good name of Indian ladies and India in general. India is a very big supplying industry for basically everything on this planet. Now the country has a very big population with AIDS. Many people in India are losing the good teachings that the saints and sages gave to the country. Many Ravanas and Kansh around.

India.....WAKE UP before the bad law makers make these new laws to destroy the country. Here I am only talking about 498A and DV law. So ladies.....do a U Turn and do the duties well. Otherwise the next generation will include your own daughters on this path to disaster!!! And many of you will seem to be the modern day Ravanas and Kansh in India. If you are enjoying all this, then continue dancing in overseas clubs and make plenty of money by extracting money from guys after marrying them and then misusing these 498A type penal code laws. And be a supplying industry for sex also. So India gets a new logo name for the supplying industry for everything..."We supply you enjoy"

Message for the good ladies…..I am sorry to put it this way. It is as bad as this and so have done it this way. UK Guy...not born in India.
 
The formless consists of attributes Truth, Righteousness, Equanimity, Love and Non-Violence (also known as The Rules). From which we got our ancestors consisting of hydrogen, oxygen,calcium, carbon etc as mentioned by you also above. During creation there was nothing. He did not go to look for hydrogen and oxygen to make water...if He had done so then it would have only confirmed there was someone before Him.

Once we are able to discard the feeling of this body, what remains is the formless attributes. That is the Bliss stage and we have a feel of that during meditation. Those attributes all together make one powerful Super Human Power. That never dies and so never comes back. It is always there. God never takes birth. The form takes birth.

Religion can be regarded a systematic faith in this Super Human Power called GOD.

WHAT DO THESE RULE BREAKERS FOLLOW?

WHY THEY DONT LIKE DAUGHTERS?

PLEASE DONT BREAK THE RULES USING YOUR MONEY POWER.

AND PLEASE DONT MISUSE THE INDIAN PENAL CODE 498A AND DV LAW EITHER. Peace - UK
 
The formless consists of attributes Truth, Righteousness, Equanimity, Love and Non-Violence (also known as The Rules). From which we got our ancestors consisting of hydrogen, oxygen,calcium, carbon etc. During creation there was nothing. He did not go to look for hydrogen and oxygen to make water...if He had done so then it would have only confirmed there was someone before Him.

Once we are able to discard the feeling of this body, what remains is the formless attributes. That is the Bliss stage and we have a feel of that during meditation. Those attributes all together make one powerful Super Human Power. That never dies and so never comes back. It is always there. God never takes birth. The form takes birth.

Religion can be regarded a systematic faith in this Super Human Power called GOD.

WHAT DO THESE RULE BREAKERS FOLLOW?

WHY THEY DONT LIKE DAUGHTERS?

PLEASE DONT BREAK THE RULES USING YOUR MONEY POWER.

AND PLEASE DONT MISUSE THE INDIAN PENAL CODE 498A AND DV LAW EITHER. Peace - UK
 
THIS IS ON INTERNET

“Salats asked to settle dispute out of court

Express News Service
Ahmedabad, July 30: While granting bail to Chirag Salat, accused of forcing wife Pooja to abort a female foetus and harassing her for failing to bear a male child, the Sessions Court on Monday asked the couple to resolve the dispute between themselves.

Chirag, prime accused in the case, is the last member of his family to have been granted bail in the case. Additional Sessions Judge PP Bhatt fixed a surety of Rs 20,000 against the bail.

Pooja had alleged that Chirag and 17 others had been mentally and physically harassing her for the last nine years for failing to bear a male child. She had alleged that her in-laws forced her to undergo an abortion in 1998 after a sex determination test revealed she was carrying a female foetus. The test was allegedly conducted at Dr Sanat Joshi’s clinic. She had also accused the Salats of demanding Rs 25 lakh as dowry.

On Monday, defence lawyers Sudhir Nanavati and Prakash Shah contended that Pooja filed her police complaint a few days after Chirag filed for a divorce. They also submitted that not a single medical certificate was submitted by Pooja for injuries sustained during her stay with the Salats.”

----------------------------------------

THIS NEWS YOU READ ABOVE HAS BEEN ON INTERNET AND SO SHOWS HOW THIS CASE SUDDENLY IS NOT REGARDED AS A CRIMINAL CASE LIKE IT HAPPENS IN OTHER CASES AS PER INDIAN PENAL CODE 498A AND DV LAW !!!

IT WAS THOUGHT THAT EVEN THIS CASE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RIGOROUS PROCESS AND THEREBY HURT THE MEN’S SIDE FOR SOME YEARS LIKE IT HAPPENS IN ALL OTHER CASES. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT IS RIGHT TO DO THAT BUT HOW COME IT HAPPNES IN ALL OTHER CASES?

AND ALSO WHY THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SETTLE OUTSIDE THE COURT WHILE OTHER CASES ARE GOING ON FOR 5-6 YEARS?

AND SEE HOW QUICKLY THIS DECISION HAS BEEN REACHED!!!

SO WHAT MESSAGE IT SENDS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND SPECIALLY THE FEMALE POPULATION IN INDIA?

ON 26TH JULY Peace - UK said above " Quickly Mrs Renuka Chaudhary should get involved personally in this case otherwise this case can disappear. Normally these type of criminal cases (as they are criminal case in India) take about 5-6 years to come to an end."

So one can see how people know in advance how money speaks faster in India.

Reader UK
 
http://www.topix.net/in/rajkot/2007/07/indian-minister-accused-of-demanding-dowry
 
This is on internet:-

ALL INDIA PROTEST ON MISUSE OF
Dowry law, IPC 498A and DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACT 2005

LOCATION : JANTAR MANTAR, NEW DELHI

TIMING : 10 to 2 PM, 26th August 2007

Organised Jointly by:

http://www.savefamily.org ,
http://www.saveindianfamily.org
http://www.savefamily.org
http://www.asha-kiran.org
http://mynation.net
http://www.protectindianfamily.org
http://www.siftimes.com
http://www.498a.org


Peace - UK
 
Where money buys the legal system, these sort of things will keep happening. The other day a guy was telling me that to survive in India, you need to be a gunda or have lots of money. And that is not the majority in India. The straight forward people and the poor form the majority and they suffer. And many of the others seem to be in power and they rule. In pakistan they overthrow such government.....and that is also not the answer. But one such overthrow in Indai will open up some people's brains and I am sorry to say that finally. Peace - UK
 
RE: "INDIAN PENAL CODE 498A AND DV LAW"

Some notes from internet and more additions done:

"There are many number of cases where even if no dowry was taken / demanded; just because wife was not able to adjust to husband home, in the name of Dowry, 498a has been used as an instrument to harass innocent husband, his age old parents and his married / unmarried sisters.

Based on girl’s complaint, police blindly without any proof or enquiry; arrested all those named in the complaint and put them in jail.

Although Judges strongly feel that provisions of 498a needs to be changed, but are unable to do any thing since power to amend Law is in the hands of our Politicians.

Since provisions of Sec, 498a IPC are one sided, this has contributed to increased divorce rate. Recently introduced Domestic Violence Act is also one sided and will further accelerate divorce rate. Single-parent system is worst for any society especially for growing children and will deteriorates Law and order situation.

India is not the only country where family disputes take place; however, no country has laws, which empowers its police to arrest family members without an investigation. In no country people are put in jails, until case has been heard by a judge and person declared a culprit. It is only in India where people implicated with 498a, are put in Jails even before case is heard by a Judge."

NRI’s are also trapped by such laws. Many previously used to visit India on regular basis and also contribute at various places but now are no longer able to do this. May be this is a drop in an ocean for India and “who cares” approach takes place from within India but the word is going around fast in more far away countries also. Let me say no more. Peace - UK
 
“WITHOUT PREJUDICE”

“INDIAN PENAL CODE 498A AND DV LAW

This Penal code 498A and DV law have been brought in too quickly to slow down any problems men might give to women. Basically it is like a dog chain on a man’s neck after he gets married.

As we hear all the time, there is a caste system existing in India and there are people who are underpaid. So as such, these people must be suffering. And as I understand, these people are in thousands. So if a law similar to Indian Penal Code 498A is introduced for these people to use (or shall I say misuse?), then what will happen to the Indian economy. Can a low caste person and can an underpaid person walk into any police station and complain and get the employer etc arrested? Surely India can collapse for a while in such circumstances as the number of people suffering seems to be very high. What if there is an uprising from this majority? The whole world will be in support of these sufferers. Why the politicians are waiting for such a time to come?

By no means I am trying to say that such one sided Penal Code 498A type laws are a useful tool. Much thought is needed for the wording of such laws. We are talking about 2007.

In real terms there are points which go against ladies. Firstly having people arrest after false complaints and then demand for money after false complaints can all be tackled as there are rules and regulations for all that. It appears that some lawyers find a quick way by encouraging men to give money to ladies to finish the cases. For arranging this, a lawyer can also get a fair share from the men. This cant be right.

Once again, by no means I am trying to say that such one sided Penal Code 498A type laws are a useful tool. Much thought is needed for the wording of such laws. We are talking about 2007.”

Peace – UK
 
http://498a.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/indian-indian-india/
 
THIS IS ON INTERNET.....

"Govt examining laws dealing with molestation

Posted at Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:01 IST
New Delhi, Jan 15: Molesters beware, the government is considering to make the laws dealing with the social malaise stricter.

Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Chowdhary on Tuesday said her ministry was examining the issue and government may come up with stricter laws and implementation mechanism to deal with cases of molestation.

The minister held a two-hour long meeting with her officials here to discuss the Immoral Trafficking Act, misuse of Section 498-A of the IPC relating to dowry, laws dealing with molestation and fraudulent NRI marriages.

"We are examining the laws and the sole aim of the ministry is to ensure implementation of these laws. The problem is with implementation.

We want to ensure faster and hassle-free implementation of laws meant to serve women," Chowdhury told reporters.

"In case of Mumbai molestation, I just would like to say that politicisation of the episode is uncalled for. Therefore I don't want to say anything on the issue. It would be better if people show little sensitivity while referring to it," she said.

On whether the ministry has asked for a report on the incident, she said, "Yes we have asked for a detailed report in the case from Mumbai Police because I want to know the whole truth."

She said the ministry was also examining other laws concerning women, including those relating to fraudulent marriages.

"We are examining the whole gamut of law, keeping the interest and safety of women in mind. There are tricky situations, like a girl marries an NRI groom and later gets to know that he is already married," she said."

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HHS - UK says.....

AND THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE THE INDIAN LADIES FROM INDIA CHEAT AND TROUBLE NRIs AND PIOs AND INDIAN MEN IN INDIA. THERE ARE OFFICES IN INDIA THAT DONT EVEN BOTHER TO REPLY TO OR APPRECIATE INFORMATION GIVEN. SOME KEEP WAITING AND HOPING THAT THE APPROPRIATE OFFICES IN INDIA WILL HELP TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.....and they wait and wait and wait!!!

AT THE MOMENT THE INNOCENT ARE BEING PUNISHED. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR YEARS. AND OF COURSE ALL IS IN THE OPEN AND KNOWN. TO START WITH READ ALL THESE CASES COMING UP HERE DAILY.

http://victims-of-law.blogspot.com/

http://498a.wordpress.com/

SOME CASES DONT EVEN COME HERE AT THESE TOPICS. SOME KEEP WAITING AND HOPING THAT THE APPROPRIATE OFFICES IN INDIA WILL HELP TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.....and they wait and wait and wait!!!

MUCH TALK AND LESS ACTION IS USELESS.

HHS - UK
 
TIME FOR SUCH TYPE OF LAW MAKERS TO SHOW THE WHITE FLAG AND ALLOW SOME OF US TO GIVE POINTS OFFICIALLY TO BE USED FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING MARRIED.

WE DONT HATE INDIA. THIS IS ALL FOR THE LOVE OF INDIA. MANY OF US ARE NOT ABLE TO VISIT INDIA FOR SUCH FEARS OF FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND THEN HAVING TO STAY THERE FOR 6-7 YEARS WITHOUT MUCH END TO THE CASE. THE ONLY THING THAT ENDS IS THE MONEY FROM OUR POCKETS. THAT IS NOT GOOD BUSINESS METHOD.

TRY “REAL LEGAL BUSINESS” INSTEAD OF THIS “ILLEGAL BUSINESS MADE REALLY LEGAL” FOR THE SELFISH NEEDS OF SOME. I THINK I HAVE SAID SOMETHING REAL AGAIN. WHEN HEART SPEAKS QUICKLY ON PAPER, IT DOES IT THIS WAY. WHO CAN WIN SUCH CLEAR HEART ILLEGALLY? YES, THE PERSON WHO TRIED IS THERE…..ALONE…..PERHAPS WITH ANOTHER PERSON…..WHO KNOWS!!!

IF ACTION IS NOT TAKEN QUICKLY, MAN WILL GIVE MANGALSUTRA AND THE LADY WILL GIVE THE 498A DOG CHAIN TO TROUBLE NOT ONLY THE HUSBAND BUT HIS WHOLE FAMILY.

UKrusader
 
Sunday, December 28, 2008
Purushottam Mahajan - Mumbai - Maharastra
Name: Purushottam Mahajan
Comments: My name is Purushottam Mahajan; presently working for Citibank, my wife’s name is Ujjwala after marriage (Pallavi). She runs a Beauty Parlor at Santosh Nagar, Goreagaon(E), Mumbai, which is a slum area.The marriage was held on 25April, 1999. From the very beginning there was a difference of values and the attitude towards life. After marriage we had gone to Matheran for Honeymoon and there only she showed her colors….was freely flirting with a son of the hotel owner where we stayed.
My parents live at Dabhadi, Taluka- Malegaon Dist- Nasik .Immediately after marriage she said if you do not take me to Mumbai I will make a big Tamasha….
My mother is a retired Head Mistress of a school at Dabhadi and my father was a Head Master of a school at Dabhadi and now retired as Area Education Officer.
Initially the problem was of hygiene, gross negligence at home; my kitchen was just a dump yard she never use to take care of my son, her only interest was her beauty parlor where she sits with women who always talk very cheap….
Once there was a fight as my son was not doing well in studies and I requested her to come back home once son’s school gets over because after school he remains hungry she keeps him at parlor where he plays in the slum…gutter…mud…because of the fight we together went to a Police Station at Dindoshi, Goregaon, where we met Mr. Suryakant Kharat who was PSI on duty…..I explained him the problem…when he heard about the beauty parlor he took interest in my wife, did not listen to me and did hero giri in front of my wife…Isko Under Kar do kya…..he then gave his mobile number to my wife and taken her number also.
After few days my wife showed me the sms sent by the PSI…said how he is trying to take the advantage of our quarrel….then he started giving calls to her….initially she avoided talking to him…when she showed me the calls I requested her that we should go to his senior officer and complaint…she said why will she complaint?.....he may be useful to her one day….why will I take enmity against him?... The entire world came to know but I was not knowing when she developed the relations with him….My friend saw her on the motor bike with him….the neighbors saw her with him….but I came to know at the last…..when I came to know she started giving threats Kharat can arrest me any time….he can arrest my entire family my aged mother-father brother-sister….then whenever we use to have quarrel she started hitting me….pulling my hair…and tearing my clothes…and giving me threats Kharat can come with Police Jeep and can arrest me….when she started hitting me very badly I told it to my relatives…no one believed….wife can not beat her husband then I met a Lawyer Mrs. Ashumol Kumar…explained her the problem she told me that if no one believes then you will have to record it….because what happens in the four walls, you will not be able to prove and the law protects only women….then I put a DVR, a video recorder. It recorded all the incidents day and night 24hours for 2 months…. Where you can see she beating me every morning I was going to my office and after office the moment I entered the house….though I am a man I was afraid of going home at the end of the day….
I showed the recording to my relatives….they were shocked…the meeting was arranged between her relatives and my relatives where my wife said she is not interested and wants to be a free women…her father demanded 10 lacks rupees and said if this demand is not fulfilled then as you are aware we have good relationship with the Police Department….we know how to get the money….relatives said it is totally a kind of extortion….if you get money then nothing happed if you do not get money then you will file falls complaint to get money…the intervention of the relatives was of no use…wife left my home at her own will brought police to take her belongings…and started living independently….then I filed a divorce petition under cruelty ground in the Family Court at Bandra on 23rd July 08 and as the part of the conspiracy with Karath and a lady PSI Vandana Shirgire my wife gave a written complaint to file a case against me U/S 498A on 8th Aug 2008.
I was called on 20/08/2008 at the Police Station. I went with all the evidence I had showed it to the PSI Vandana Shirgire who is a regular visitor to my wife’s beauty parlor and was taking instructions from Mr. Kharat….the PSI behaved very rudely with me I called my Lawyer Mrs. Ashumol Kumar…the lawyer spoke to the PSI and also with my wife, they demanded 10 Lacks rupees or be prepared for the consequences….the lawyer said make a demand which can be fulfilled…..
Then I met the Senior Police Inspector Mr. Uttam Khairmode (on 21st Aug 08) showed him the video recording and explained him that it is me how is the victim….he called my wife… they had the meeting…the Senior PI said if you take your wife with you there would be no offence registered if you do not take her with you we will file a complaint….I said Sir she left the house on her own…even after looking at these videos where you see how violent my wife is you are asking me to take her home…..then I did 2 things I applied for Anti-cipatory Bail and I met the DCP Mr. Ajit Patil…(on 28th Aug 08) after looking at the videos he said how can they think of filing complaint against you?....he called the Senior PI who was irate with me because I approached his senior and also called the lady PSI and my wife…..he showed the video to my wife she agreed it is she only…then I was told to go…..and the next day the police was suppose to give their say for my anticipatory bail application the lady PSI came with the offence registered.

Initially interim anticipatory bail was granted to me but later the Judge did not see the videos and the divorce petition which was flied before the offence registered …just kept on reading the documents created by the police and I was sent to jail….for 5 days….
After coming out of the Jail I straightaway went to see Teesta Setlwad ….she was not in Mumbai….then I met her husband Mr. Javed Anand… who told me that he knows the Additional Commissioner Mr. Suresh Khopde who is non corrupt and would give justice to me….I prepared presentation spending the entire night and next day met him (on 7th Oct 08). He called Mr. Kharath and the lady PSI Vandan Shirgire (on 10th Oct) and told me to ask few questions to them in front of the Additional Commission both Kharat and Shirgire were unable to give answers to my questions….Mr. Khopde said he can very well see the conspiracy…said we recruit women who are suppose to be sensitive but this lady officer is shameless…he shouted at both of them and said I am taking this case away form Vandana Sirgire at this very moment… told me to meet PI Khadtare give him all the evidence I showed him and they will see that this case gets classified and closed. Now Mr. Khadtare has taken my statement, statement of relatives who witnessed the extortion of Rupees 10 lacks…I have given him all the documents proving that each and every sentence in the FRI is falls ….but I am not sure if he is trying to safe guard PSI Kharat and Vandana Sirgire…So far he has not yet submitted his report to the Additional Commissioner Mr. Suresh Khopde who is due for promotion and may get transferred and then there will be no one to give justice to me….at the moment I am just waiting and watching…
Posted by 498A_Crusader at 12/28/2008 02:04:00 PM 2 comments

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Peace - UK
 
I had said that the politicians allowing this misuse of Indian Penal Code 498A after reading cases are equally at fault. This was clearly stated during comments at one particular case. Now it seems that there is some sort of a U-Turn coming to place. We need to know more about it as to whether it is fully in force throughout India or not.

Peace - UK
 
New aditional rules on Indian Penal Code 498A(Reader to check for details):-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF596wNcpbA

Peace - UK
 
My name is Swati Desai and I am a divorce attorney in California. I am very familiar of the adverse consequences 498A can have on Indian husbands residing in the US. I also am very aware of the adverse consequences 498A can have on the families residing in India. 498A is unfair, unjust and highly misused. I can help draft judgments/decrees/marital settlement agreements that minimize the risk and even prevent wife from filing a 498A case. I AM THE ONLY ATTORNEY IN THE US THAT ADDRESSES THE 498A ISSUES IN A US DIVORCE CASE. Please call (714) 637-1712 and schedule a 45 minute consultation for only $350.00. You will be extremely happy you called!
 
Hello All,

Please to fight against 498a is there any organisation/forum available as i am victim and want to support other brother on this

-Balaji
 
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